Patrick Durusau is the project editor for ODF 1.2. Considering the escalated conflict between OOXML-backers and opposers, one might think that he sided with the opposition.
He doesn’t. Before the decicion, he was quoted on saying that everyone would loose if ISO didn’t accept OOXML as a new standard.
Durusau spent this week in Norway, preparing for the next ISO-meeting to be held in Oslo Sunday to Tuesday, and to participate on the Second International Topic Maps Conference.
I got the opportunity to interview him, and I asked if he still stood by his statement that yes to OOXML is a good thing.
- Oh yeah! No standards, including ODF, stands alone. Standards are created in a social context that involves a multitude of players. If we create a situation where someone is excluded and no longer can participate, that diminishes the values of standadrds, says Patrick Durusau.
He is not happy about the conflict between OOXML backers and opposers.
- Standards don’t have sides. Standards are for everybody, says Durusau.
Durusau spent his days in Norway while the OOXML conflict and debate raged. He says he’s not been following the massive media attention, neither here in Norway or at the international level, despite the fact that his statement has been quoted all over.
- I don’t read the press coverage. It either makes you paranoid or mad, says Durusau.
Durusau flew in from the United States on Monday, and arrived in Oslo on Tuesday. He has spent most of the time at the hotel room, preparing for the upcoming ISO-meeting.
- Standards are not the ten commandments. They are not finished products that never changes. One of the inputs that make them evolve are other standards, says Durusau.
Even though he is the Project Editor for ODF 1.2, he is not pushing “his” standard forward at the sacrifice of OOXML.
- You choose depending on your requirements, says Durusau.
He does however, point out that if you want a free Office system, then OOXML probably isn’t for you. On the other half, if preservation of legacy is a consideration, then you may want to look more closely at OOXML.
The OOXML-fight for ISO-acceptance is over, and the next fight in Norway will be focused on the Norwegian Minister of Government Administration and Reform, Heidi Grande Røys. She must decide whether OOXML will be added to the list of accepted formats for government agencies to use when they publish information.
- I hestitate to advice the government on that, says Durusay.
The Norwegian Minister has ordered every government agency to publish all public information in either HTML, PDF or ODF, starting on the 1.st of January 2009. What format to use, depends on the kind of information to be published.
Generally readable information will be published in HTML, documents where the preservation of information needs to look the same shall be published in PDF, and documents meant for editing must be published in the ODF-format.
The Minister is not obliged to accept OOXML, and if she does, it will overlap with ODF. She must therefore decide between three alternatives on behalf of the government.
- Don’t accept OOXML for public publication of information
- Accept OOXML side-by-side with ODF
- Accept OOXML, but demand that all public editable dokuments is published in both ODF and OOXML
If she goes for alternative 1, Microsoft and all the users of Microsoft Office will protest. They are the majority of Norwegian users today.
Alternative 2 will let the agencies decide themselves. That leaves the users with the problem of having to handle both formats. It’s hard to say which will be preferred, but in the short term this gives Microsoft a big advantage.
The third alternative will put an additional burden on the governmental agencies, because they will have to provide two formats for every editable document they publish. It will add costs, but the bill will be footed by the agencies and not the individual Norwegian citizen.

This will be a tough decision for the Minister, and when I put the problem forward to Durusau and asks for a comment, he stops and starts thinking for while. A long while. Finally, he speaks:
- I’m thinking. I’m trying to think of something useful to say, says Durusau.
He is truly a diplomat by nature. He sees the dilemma, and that this decision might have a big impact on the circulation of the format he works on. Still, he declines to give the Norwegian Minister an advice on which alternative she should choose. He confines himself to say that she must do a thorough assesment before she makes the decision.
The critique against Microsoft and their OOXML-format have been formulated on many levels, and it is particularly harsh from people with a lot of technical knowledge and experience from working with standards. On my direct question on what he thinks of the quality of the OOXML-standard, Durusau is surprisingly blunt:
- I think OOXML has a lot of room for improvement, says Durusau.
Still, he is very diplomatic, and offers a polite remark.
- Having said that, there are still issues in ODF, sas Durusau.
Durusau clearly states that he is glad that OOXML became an accepted ISO-standard, and argues that it is better to have the problems solved in an open forum. He also believes that OOXML eventually will become a good standard.
- The problems will be fixed, although some will take longer than others. You have to remember that we are not lackin XML-expertise in the comittee. I really am optimistic, says Durusau.

ODF Project Editor Patrick Durusau spent this week in Norway, and he got to see Steve Pepper’s ending keynote at the Second International Topic Maps User Conference in Oslo.
Notes:
I first published this article in Norwegian at digi.no.
Updated: I had problems uploading pictures. They were added afterwards.
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